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Sex with the Queen: 900 Years of Vile Kings, Virile Lovers, and Passionate Politics (2006)

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I hemmed and hawed over Eleanor Herman's "Sex with Kings", mainly because I really couldn't say much about historical accuracy without doing a ton of research. Or so I thought. Simply googling one of the queens featured in "Sex with the Queen" proved my suspicions of Herman's shoddy research and fact-bending correct. Then I looked at her bibliography, a detail I forgot in my last review, and... well.The two stars here are, again, for Herman's nice prose and good selection. I definitely want to write down the names of the some of the more obscure women featured and research them further. Because I sure as hell don't trust Herman's word.I already knew that Herman works around facts to get the juiciest story possible. She certainly did that in "Sex with Kings", making the much maligned Athenais de Montespan look far worse than she actually was. So I wasn't too surprised when I saw Anne Boleyn featured here, though Herman at least had the decency to mention that the queen was innocent. She did go on to give a portrayal of some vicious cold-hearted flirt who was mean to the man who "moved heaven and earth for her". Um, are we talking about the same Henry VIII here? He also kind of wanted any woman who could give him a son. Anne was simply smart enough (and lucky enough) to be in the right place at the right time, with all the right moves. He probably would have dumped Catherine of Aragon for a foreign princess if Anne hadn't shown up, but oh, Eleanor Herman doesn't miss a chance to dump on not so cute and cuddly women.(I'm not even going to touch what she did with Princess Diana. Again.)I raised an eyebrow at Herman's portrayal of Anne's social circle as a group of gay men, including her brother. She basically vomited up everything Retha Warnicke has said about Anne Boleyn. Warnicke has, of course, been criticized by nearly every Tudor scholar worth his or her salt and in particular Anne's definitive biographer, the later Eric Ives, who was, of course, barely cited here. Anne Boleyn's brother was in fact quite a womanizer, but WHATEVER HERMAN.She also chose to somehow state that Marie Antoinette and Count Axel von Fersen had a physical affair though there's nothing to support that??? I mean, it could have happened--but the only thing we know of is an emotionally intimate attachment between the pair. And Marie was hardly repulsed by her husband, as they were good friends. Also, Herman makes this great leap of assuming some random documents were love letters between Marie and Fersen and... it's all so slipshod. The son Fersen apparently sired on Marie was actually noted to resemble the Bourbons, and I think Fraser promptly discounted any possibility of Fersen being the father due to dates not lining up. Amusingly enough, Flora Fraser, Antonia's daughter, is noted in Herman's bibliography. Antonia, THE Marie Antoinette biographer, is not.Then Herman goes on to completely massacre the marriage of Nicholas and Alexandra Romanov, which was actually one of the happiest in royal history. I actually kind of laughed to read about Alexandra dominating Nicholas, when in fact they had a very Victorian marriage--husband in charge, wife in a supporting role. The idea that she had an affair with Rasputin has no basis beyond rumor and is actively offensive to her memory.The above mentioned issues were my main problems. But then she got all these small details wrong: mentioning that Eleanor of Aquitaine (who Herman touts as her ancestress) had one daughter by her first husband when in fact she had two, for instance. I mean, it doesn't take much to correct mistakes like that.No effort beyond looking for interesting women. No effort, a lot of judgment, and a TON of misogyny. Whatever, Eleanor Herman. Whatever.

เล่มนี้คงถือว่าเป็น non-fiction สำหรับเราขอเรียกว่า side-story ของประวัติศาสตร์ในฐานะคนที่ชอบอ่าน historical romance เรื่องนี้ได้มาเสริมแต่งหลายจุดที่เรายังไม่รู้และนึกไม่ค่อยถึง และ หนังสือ historical romance ที่เราเคยอ่าน ก็ไม่ค่อยมีเจ้าชาย เจ้าหญิงมากนักเรียกได้ว่า ได้เปิดโลกทัศน์มากทีเดียว...แม้ว่า เรื่องราวของเจ้าหญิง ควีน ในยุคก่อนๆ ในหน้าต้นๆกลางๆ จะทำให้เราแปลกใจเป็นการปูพื้นมาก่อนแล้ว ไม่สามารถช่วยอะไรเราได้เลยในกรณีเจ้าหญิงองค์สุดท้าย เจ้าหญิงไดอาน่า...ในฐานะคนที่เกิดไม่ทัน เคยแต่อ่านการ์ตูนชุดบุคคลสำคัญของโลก เจ้าหญิงในใจเรา เป็นเจ้าหญิงแสนดีที่น่าสงสาร เจอแบบนี้ ทำใจไม่ทันจริงๆ เงิบมาก ถึงขนาดไปเปิดข่าวเปิดอะไรดูเลย เฮ้อเอาเป็นว่า เรื่องนี้ ถ้าชอบประวัติศาสตร์ อ่านดูไม่เสียหายค่ะ เติมเต็มจิตใจที่กระหายอยากจะรู้ดี แต่ก็เงิบพอประมาณ สำหรับคนที่ไม่ค่อยรู้อะไรแบบเรา

What do You think about Sex With The Queen: 900 Years Of Vile Kings, Virile Lovers, And Passionate Politics (2006)?

"Sex with the Queen" is meant to be racy "airing of dirty laundry" read. Unfortunately the author seems to have foregone with an editor- the script lacks any sort of coherency, jumping from one era to another; one country to another. I had expected a witty anecdotal book- it starts humorously enough, recounting the story about a King who had to be carried all the way to his bedchamber to consummate his marriage. I enjoyed reading about some of the misadventures of the lesser known kings & queens.However, when we go on to the exploits of Eleanor of Aquitaine with her uncle (!!); and Marie Antoinette and Count Axel von Fersen, I knew we were wandering into WTF territory. One would think that an author should know what is accepted fact, and what is written as slander back in the Middle Ages. The stories about Princess Diana left me with a bad taste in my mouth. ugh. If I wanted this kind of thing, there are plenty of society tabloids.
—Aoi

"Princesses were raised to be devout, obedient, and faithful. When sent to meet their new husbands, they set off with every intention of retaining these vital qualities in their new lives. What happened over the years that made so many of them lose their religion, their obedience, and their fidelity?"That is the first paragraph of Sex with the Queen, a book that travels through 900 years of adulterous relationships, and the heartbreaking stories of the queens other lovers. Starting with Eleanor of Aquitaine (Queen of France) all the way to Princess Diana we learn the woes of becoming a queen throughout the 900 years. Queens were expected to be obedient and were only useful (as sad as this is) for their ability to make heirs. Not all queens felt this way, and often took extreme measures to have secret lovers. It was quite unfair for a queen consort (a queen that is only married to the king, and has no ruling power), because she was not allowed to have affairs with other men yet the king could have as many mistresses as he desired. If the queens had a secret lover and the king found out, it could very well be the end of her life and the life of her lover.I really enjoyed this book, though at times it was hard to keep track of all the people. You learn about many queens and their lovers, even ones that I had never heard of before. Some of my favorite stories included that of Catharine the Great, Sophia Dorothea of Celle, Marie Antoinette of France, and Caroline Matilda of Britain. These four girls seemed to have the longer stories in the book, but their stories were very exciting. Sophia was imprisoned for 32 years for having a lover, who was killed and buried under the castle floorboards so nobody could find him. Catharine the Great had so many lovers that it is unknown just how many she had, but through it all she ruled Russia with honor. She is quoted to have said " I cannot live one day without love." I was shocked to find out that Catharine and Princess Diana had so many lovers. It seemed like both of them had so many that even they couldn't keep track of them.I had a problem with some of the stories being to short. The book is written in tiny stories like articles from a newspaper. It seemed like we would just learn about the princess and her lover and move on to another princess, when I wanted to learn more! I did learn a lot more about other cultures beside my fascination with England royalty. It has princesses from Germany, Russia, France, and Spain. I definitely have more respect for the other cultures, and might even venture out of England Royalty some day lol. The book is not all about the queens extra lovers, however, a good portion of the book is dedicated to how it was to live a queens life. Many future queens were brought over from another country expected to rule a land where they didn't even know the language. Oh, and there is the matter of many queens husbands not being attracted to them, because they were in fact gay. Nevertheless, they were still forced to marry their gay husband and make babies. One story involved a young boy to scared to have sex with his wife so he used a turkey baster to try and impregnate her. After reading this book I think it's truly amazing how far we've come!I think this is a great book for females even if you aren't into the history portions. If nothing else it's great to learn how woman had to overcome unfair persecution for doing the same thing a king did. My heart went out to all the stories that ended with them being beheaded, because of something they were forced to endure. This was an excellent read and is a follow-up book to Sex with Kings: 500 Years of Adultery, Power, Rivalry, and Revenge (P.S.).
—Kelly F.

Sex with the Queen / 978-0-061-75156-1"Sex with the Queen" is an absolutely delightful romp through the sexual affairs and extramarital conduct of European queens and princesses. Author Eleanor Herman is clearly skilled and starts with a strong, clear look at life as a European princess and with the understanding that such a life was hardly a rose garden for most of the women involved. After carefully providing the reader with a close and deeply fascinating look at daily royal life throughout Europe, she then works her way through the centuries with each chapter, bringing us delightful tales of the women who dared to find comfort and sex outside of marriage. What I love most about "Sex with the Queen" is how wonderfully well-written the book is. The material is scholarly and I greatly appreciate the fact that the author has tried to present as much fact and as little fiction as possible. Unlike other historical works that rely more heavily on titillation and lack of context (like the fun but very gossipy "A Treasury of Royal Scandals"), "Sex with the Queen" presents context and clarification for all the material presented herein. The result is a surprisingly scholarly work that is still written in a deeply conversational tone - easy to follow and a delight to read. So much of the information presented here will almost certainly be new and interesting to the casual reader. The obvious heavy hitters are here, such as Catherine the Great and Marie Antoinette, but many of the stories here are of relatively obscure or otherwise unknown princesses and queens, and it's amazing to see their stories come to life on the page. The prose is clear and precise (as are the translated love letters!), and it's very easy to sink into these stories despite the rather complicated political machinations and family trees that necessarily have to be explained in order to fully tell the tale. The only criticism I can level at "Sex with the Queen" is that very occasionally Herman succumbs to the temptation to write a touch of "purple prose" about how truly lovely it must have been between a queen and her lover. These pieces seem a little out of place among the scholarly tone and a bit embarrassingly gushy, but these passages are limited to no more than a few lines, and are quickly passed over back to the scholarly meat of the text. I truly enjoyed this book, and I think that anyone with an interest in the history of royal families will be delighted with this book. ~ Ana Mardoll
—Ana Mardoll

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