After a year there I kept an apartment out and kept renting a place at the Creem house since it was convenient when I was working downtown. One of our roommates was the son of the governor, William Milliken. He was a heroin addict, and one day I woke up with a horrible hangover and my bedroom was right off the kitchen, and I walked in and sitting at the kitchen table was the governor, reading the riot act to his son. I thought, “How could this be?” I suppose to the governor we all looked like Satan. Dave Marsh (journalist, author, Creem magazine, Rolling Stone): Creem evolved pretty quickly. A British guy named Tony Reay had a vision and Barry Kramer had a vision, and they started it. Tony Reay (cofounder, Creem magazine): Jeep Holland had suggested to me that Russ [Gibb] might want someone to do PR for the Grande and that I might be able to parlay my current writing outlets with the Fifth Estate and the Detroit News into a viable PR company for Russ and the Hideout/Palladium axis of teen clubs as well as the other bookers of teen clubs and dances.
